Friday, December 12, 2008

A page from the "Well no shit" files

I hear all the time that religion doesn't make people mistrustful of science all the time. It just happens that there's a direct correlation between religious belief and the ignorant criticism of evolution. It's not all science. Just that one area.

Oh yeah. And nanotechnology.

The article also said that mistrust of "the internet, genetically modified food, nuclear power" and other things tended to go along with distrust in nanotechnology.

In other words, religion gives people a general sense of paranoia in which everything's turned into another demon from which they need saving. Forget that pesky reality.

"The researchers say their finding support the idea that underlying cultural beliefs have a stronger influence on opinions formed about nanotechnology than science based information".

Duh.

12 comments:

Nicole said...

I, as an atheist, welcome our nanobot overlords!

Kozz said...

Religion requires the simplest of all world views. "God did it". It wouldn't do to go and complicate it with anything reality has to offer. The wonder and beauty that reason reveals of the world has turned to a fog of contradictions in their minds, and anything requiring reason to appreciate, instead becomes an enemy. The enemy of simplistic delusion.

Cheers

Kris said...

There is no conflict betweeen God and science. He created us with minds to explore the world. Why the black and white God vs science controversy? An athiest who says "There is no God" is just as bad off as a Christian who says "There is no such thing as science". The question is "What do You put Your faith in?"

Kozz said...

Kris don't be stupid. Using this logic someone who says that Thor doesn't exist is exactly equivalent to someone who prays to a ceramic Thor's hammer hanging above their fireplace every time lighting strikes. Just asinine, really. why not just say I'm closed minded because I don't think the tooth fairy exists. It's exactly the same, whether you like it or not.

Kris said...

Kozz, did not say anyone was closed minded, and I don't know who Thor is. I just asked the question "Why can't God and science coexist?"

Kozz said...

Thor is a Norse God. It could just as easily have been Zeus, Jupiter, Isis or any of the thousands of other Gods people have believed in in the past.

Well of course science and religion can coexist, they do so now, but not easily. They are exact opposites. Science starts with evidence and tries to come up with a postulation to fit them, and religon starts of with a postulation (God) and then tries to make all the evidence fit the postulation, which of course it can never do, resulting in all kinds of incredible contortions of human reasoning. Science by it's very nature tends to lesson the need for a God over time, explaining more and more of the world around us. And religion, at the same time, tries to lesson the impact of science by doing things like trying to get creationism taught in schools. They are natural enemies. Science is the very essence of human reasoning. And reason is God's worst nightmare. God simply can't exist where reason prevails, which is why they call it blind faith. Based on nothing you are supposed to believe with all your heart. And the more you believe, rejecting all evidence to the contrary, the better Christian you are. Evidence is simply the devil trying to trick you. Yeah. Don't you ever wonder why to not believe is the worst crime in Christianity. It's all a scam Kris, keep searching for truth and you will see it. Cheers

Kris said...

Kozz, would like to say I understood what you said and appreciate the reply. I teach high school and its not often I get to converse on very deep subjects if you know what I mean. I agree with what you said about science starts with evidence and religion starts with God, and they are enemies.
I am a huge fan of science. I love all the different aspects of it. I am a math teacher. But I also have to believe there is something bigger out there somewhere. I am not talking about what "religion" says or what people in church say or what tv says, but when I look inside myself and look at the beauty of the world we live in, I can not deny the fact.
You are right there is a war between religion and science, but their is no war between God and science. Religion is man's interpretation of what type of God He really is. Science is simply the uncovering of His ways, tools, methods, building material, etc. the truly fascinating stuff. I have expressed my belief in God, not religion, what about you Kozz, Do you believe in a God? It's OK to be unsure, we all are sometimes. That is were "faith" comes in. Faith is simply saying "I am not sure how this works, but maybe one day I will find out" No matter what we believe while we are alive, we will all find out one day.

Kozz said...

There is something bigger out there it's called the universe. Why must there be a god to make your life complete? God in fact only makes life a fog of contradictions, obscuring the real beauty and truth of the universe. A belief in God requires us to ignore many aspects of reality that belies his existence.

I would go on but this is not really the place to hold an ongoing discussion, but I would be glad to continue this discussion through email. You can contact me at kozzmik11@gmail.com.

Cheers

NiteSkyGirl said...

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Rob said...

I've often wondered how a group of people so ready to believe, on faith, what others tell them, have such a hard time taking the word of scientists, even when their findings are peer-reviewed and available to the public.

NiteSkyGirl said...

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Kris said...

Kozz, would like to say I understood what you said and appreciate the reply. I teach high school and its not often I get to converse on very deep subjects if you know what I mean. I agree with what you said about science starts with evidence and religion starts with God, and they are enemies.
I am a huge fan of science. I love all the different aspects of it. I am a math teacher. But I also have to believe there is something bigger out there somewhere. I am not talking about what "religion" says or what people in church say or what tv says, but when I look inside myself and look at the beauty of the world we live in, I can not deny the fact.
You are right there is a war between religion and science, but their is no war between God and science. Religion is man's interpretation of what type of God He really is. Science is simply the uncovering of His ways, tools, methods, building material, etc. the truly fascinating stuff. I have expressed my belief in God, not religion, what about you Kozz, Do you believe in a God? It's OK to be unsure, we all are sometimes. That is were "faith" comes in. Faith is simply saying "I am not sure how this works, but maybe one day I will find out" No matter what we believe while we are alive, we will all find out one day.