O'Leary puts her foot in her mouth

When Ken Miller was visiting KU, one of the things he said about the trial was that the prosecution didn't feel the need to work too hard to show that ID is really just another form of creationism. They just let the ID crowd do the talking for them.

Over at Uncommon Descent, O'Leary makes it pretty clear that there's a strong religious appeal for ID when she asks, "...what kind of faith would be compatible with an unguided, unplanned process?"

Interestingly enough, she prefaces that with, "What blows me away is how stupid those people think the rest of us are." No Denyse. We don't think you're stupid. Just as the prosecution did in Dover, we'll let your words speak for themselves when you continue to repeat your strawman versiobn of evolution being "an unguided, unplanned process".

Uncommon so common...

I don't visit Uncommon Descent too often, but things to post about have been rather slow recently, so I figured I'd head over to see what's going on.

It looks like head honcho, Billy Dembski is worried that his PR committee is failing him. Poor guy.

Also, DaveScott has gotten bored with ID and has decided to misrepresent other parts of science, namely global warming.

But perhaps most interestingly, Uncommon Descent's newcomer, Denyse O'Leary makes a quick quip showing she doesn't quite get the idea of reading comprehension. She quotes Clarence Darrow from the 1925 Scopes Monkey trial:

For God's sake, let the children have their minds kept open – close no doors to their knowledge; shut no door from them. Make a distinction between theology and science. Let them have both. Let them be taught. Let them both live.

It's a great quote, to be sure, but there's a sentence it seems that O'Leary skipped over all together. I'll repeat it just in case you did too: "Make a distinction between theology and science."

Did you catch it? Darrow doesn't say, "Let theology masquerade as science" but proclaims that a distinction need be made. But he goes further to say "Let them have both", which is also something I agree with! Science goes in the science class, theology (read Intelligent Design) in a comparative religions class, or better yet, a church. Anything goes there.