Tuesday, October 10, 2006

Michigan Stands up for Science

Michigan's State Board of Education just passed its new state standards and curriculum. And guess what! Intelligent Design isn't on it.

What's better is that this set of standards was approved unanimously. Congrats Michigan! Dispite having the double speaking DeVos running for office, you've shown that you're not all idiots. Perhaps just stupid evil bastards.

11 comments:

beepbeepitsme said...

Sanity prevails.

Stephen said...

... for now.

In the words of the fake Professor Mad Eye Moody, we need Constant Vigilance.

j10s said...

I'm a bit confused that you are so excited that kids minds wont be open to another theory. Any theory that kids learn just opens their minds a bit more. I guess you don't care as long as it makes you seem smarter than all the people with a faith.

A little disappointing. I think your getting sucked too deep into this and don't exactly see the big picture; which is something that you should be good at, considering what you are majoring in...

Jon Voisey said...

j10s: Your post contains one major flaw. It assumes Intelligent Design is a legitimate scientific theory when in reality, it has been shown to fail at every step of the scientific method. What it has been shown to be, is a trojan horse of religion, attempting to teach kids that fairy tales are a perfectly acceptable way of explaining the world around us.

Anonymous said...

To the previous commenter. It's entirely possible to believe in God, Jesus and all things religious while at the same time also believing evolution is correct. Faith does not depend on what is written in a 2000 year old book, it depends on you attributing to God the good works you see around you every day. If you actually had real faith, you would understand this.

Anonymous said...

To the previous commenter... It's entirely impossible to believe in things of a supernatural nature while at the same time devoting oneself to the pursuit of truth and reason. If "God" is real, then does it even matter? No, and why not? Because we can't percieve it, we don't interact with it at all. Faith is misplaced in religion because it is only saying that you believe in something that couldn't possibly be explained, and so it couldn't possibly exist. Oh, and Jesus, why does Jesus matter? He's dead, he might have existed, by one name or another. However, he doesn't matter anymore because he's dead. He didn't rise from the dead because such a thing is impossible. Reason is one of the things that sets us apart from our animal cousins. Reason compels you to note this impossibility, and thus see the sham that is Jesus.

mollishka said...

something that couldn't possibly be explained, and so it couldn't possibly exist

This doesn't follow. The first concerns the limits of human understanding and the second concerns the fundamental nature of the universe. Even if the "universe" is just my imagination, then they are independent concepts.

j10s said...

Jon Voisey, that last comment was so ignorant that I will not even visit this blog anymore. If you are this narrow-minded, then I feel that the articles you write must be too.

Jon Voisey said...

If critical analysis of Intelligent Design and then concluding that it fails to even produce a testable hypothesis is "narrow-minded" then perhaps you need to consult a dictionary.

I have absolutely no problem accepting legitimate scientific controversies, but Intelligent Design and its intellectual bretheren of Creationism, both fail miserably at being science.

If you're too narrow minded to realize the distinction between the two, then I have no problem with you never returning. In the meantime, I'll chalk your retreat up to intellectual cowardice which is typical of the ID crowd; They accuse their opponets of not being open-minded, but when forced to actually prove this, scamper off trying to martyr themselves as being persecuted by the narrow-minded scientists.

If that tickles your fancy, go preach to the choir. It won't work here.

Roy said...

Faith does not depend on what is written in a 2000 year old book, it depends on you attributing to God the good works you see around you every day.

Not only this, but Genisis was written long before Jesus was around. In the new testament he says(paraphrasing) "the only way to heaven is through me," as opposed to what a bunch of Jews(no offense to jews, btw) wrote before he was sent here. The new testament contains no creationism and is filled with parables attributed to Jesus based on tolerence and doing good works, not on how people should believe the universe and life were created. The famous "Good Smaritan" parable, in which a man of different faith of the religion of the time was the only one to show kindness heavily implies that too much importance given to religious beliefs is something he was against if you ask me. And he was the son of God so he knows what he's talking about.

Your religion teaches that you shouldn't force your beliefs on people and scientific method says that your beliefs can't be considered a practical scientific hypothesis.

j10s said...

Jon Voisey, that last comment was so ignorant that I will not even visit this blog anymore. If you are this narrow-minded, then I feel that the articles you write must be too.